tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post7415756949152981514..comments2023-12-06T19:01:10.313+00:00Comments on One Ghana, One Voice: Polygamy - Kathy FitzGeraldRob Taylorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06507320627534702508noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-81095170756031679732010-08-21T09:10:40.612+00:002010-08-21T09:10:40.612+00:00Thank you for your very beautiful poem. I don'...Thank you for your very beautiful poem. I don't think anything can be said about polygamy as though generalities could apply to every culture, tribe, lineage,<br />history. As in any family system, you have angels and deamons . But it is an efficient way to distribute male wealth to women, or restore a culture decimated by genocide. It makes babies and plenty of them and whether this is good or bad depends on infant mortality, the feasibility of a woman leaving with her children and the means to support them. Must the woman obey or be punished? In such cases no marriage is a good thing.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-28226708883643273902010-08-15T21:55:23.147+00:002010-08-15T21:55:23.147+00:00i'm new... anticipation to despatch round more...i'm new... anticipation to despatch round more regularly!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-81767624703130336352009-10-09T17:35:41.392+00:002009-10-09T17:35:41.392+00:00Some Africans are Christians.
Mormons are christia...Some Africans are Christians.<br />Mormons are christians.<br />African are free to be Mormons : http://mormonfundamentalism.org<br />And they have can be Polygamous : http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=Bonratay#g/u<br />This is the truth like Abraham, Moïse, David, Salomon, Jacob, Esaü, Gédéon, Jeroboam, Lémec, Manassé, Osée, Saül, Siméon, Esdras, Abija... in the Bible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-53791233698776825432009-05-18T08:24:00.000+00:002009-05-18T08:24:00.000+00:00I am sorry for all these...perhaps I shouldn't hav...I am sorry for all these...perhaps I shouldn't have started this discussion. Next time, I promise, I would concentrate on the poem and leave all other issues outstanding.ImageNationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06021414643103601330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-89896331548282554952009-05-17T11:53:00.000+00:002009-05-17T11:53:00.000+00:00Guys, I apologise for foaming at the mouth earlier...Guys, I apologise for foaming at the mouth earlier. I'll make sure it doesn't happen again. <br /><br />CheersL Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-33245454075306609392009-05-17T03:43:00.000+00:002009-05-17T03:43:00.000+00:00dis site is deep! i am proud of my ppl...deep thou...dis site is deep! i am proud of my ppl...deep thought, smart debate...i luv it...will spread de word 'bout dis site....Patrick Asiamahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-69794517295373955662009-05-16T20:21:00.000+00:002009-05-16T20:21:00.000+00:00One thought that crossed my mind--fledgling poets ...One thought that crossed my mind--fledgling poets might feel discouraged,frightened off or uncomfortable--by running the risk of being caught in all this intellectual--crossfire--Silverzorro.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-53038524900586044192009-05-16T20:13:00.000+00:002009-05-16T20:13:00.000+00:00Will be giving my comment later.Have been away for...Will be giving my comment later.Have been away for a while.Think polygamy like chieftancy is worth debatable.Adjei Agyei-Baahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-3502180598610743732009-05-16T09:46:00.000+00:002009-05-16T09:46:00.000+00:00Thank you Rob. It's noteworthy.Thank you Rob. It's noteworthy.Darko Antwihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345172369072331718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-62468483379046696342009-05-16T09:35:00.000+00:002009-05-16T09:35:00.000+00:00Hi all,
Another interesting discussion this week ...Hi all,<br /><br />Another interesting discussion this week - thank you all for your roles in really boosting the activity in our comment sections over the recent months. This is something that I had always hoped for on OGOV, and so I'm very pleased to see it happening.<br /><br />That said, I do think we are having a couple growing pains that I would like to take a moment to address:<br /><br /><B>1. Respect:</B> I'm generally not one to censor or monitor comment sections - generally speaking, most anything goes. Hateful or violent language towards any individual or group, however, crosses the line. A few comments made recently have come very close to that line, or have crossed it. <br /><br />I have not deleted any comments and do not plan to do so in the future - but if the situation worsens I many have to. Let's work together to avoid that by being thoughtful and respectful at all times - and collectively calling people to task when they fail to do so (I know many of you are doing this already, and I thank you for that). <br /><br /><br /><B>2. Relevance:</B> As has been demonstrated in recent weeks, OGOV is not only a place for discussing poems, but also for dicussing the issues that poems present. Still, let's not forget that this is a poetry site and that the issue up for discussion was sparked by a particular work of art by a particular artist. <br /><br />Let's respect that work by keeping one eye on the poem at all times, no? <br /><br />It's easy to get wrapped up in a discussion or disagreement and take it to places that have little connection with the original topic, I know - but remember, these comments appear beneath someone's work of art, not on some generic message board! <br /><br />Another concern of mine in this regard: I have found on other blogs and forums that when an argument between a few people gets too heated, others back away and don't comment. This may be fine on a political forum, but when our discussions make some too uncomfortable to comment on the poem, I think we are doing a discervice to both poem and poet. This may or may not be happening yet, but it is something to think about.<br /><br />As a possible solution to this problem, perhaps we could use the two comment sections on each week's posts more intentionally. This week, we have 29 comments (so far) on the poem itself, but only 1 comment on the Author Profile. <br /><br />Comments on the poem itself could be made in the comment section for the poem, while comments on issues arising from the poem could be made in the "Author Profile" section. I think this would help clear up our comment sections and also give space for commentors inhibited by the political discussion.<br /><br />What do others think of this idea? No matter what, I look forward to these discussions continuing long into the future!Rob Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06507320627534702508noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-71119597828633580352009-05-15T14:40:00.000+00:002009-05-15T14:40:00.000+00:00Thanks, Kathy for a poem that got us all talking!Thanks, Kathy for a poem that got us all talking!Prince Kwasi Mensahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-31431343844052065742009-05-15T09:33:00.000+00:002009-05-15T09:33:00.000+00:00FINALLY: This discussion is about ending and by to...FINALLY: This discussion is about ending and by tomorrow we would get a new post...which I hope would spark a different form of discussion. Not one that would be easily accepted by all.<br /><br />To end this I would make some brief statements. The majority (more than 80%) of AIDS infections is in Sub-Saharan Africa (SSA) and this excludes Libya, Algeria, Morocco, Egypt, and Tunisia. With the exception of Libya these countries are not part of the AU (African Union). These countries together with other Arabic States such as Saudi Arabia, Afghanistan, Indonesia are known to practice polygamy since it is permitted by their religion. Yet these Arabian countries do not have the highest AIDS infections. Hence, the point that polygamy is responsible for the spread of HIV/AIDS does not fetch.<br /><br />The problem of AIDS in Africa is deep. In Uganda, market women who do not have money to pay for the transport of their commodities to the market centers willingly pay with sex. This was endemic in many aspects of their life. Besides, they never did believe that the disease exists until it metamorphosed into an epidemic and started killing people like flies. I had this Zimbabwean who told me that there are spots in that country where lovers meet, married or unmarried. From there on they indulge themselves in indiscriminate sex (definitely without protection, they did not believe in it).<br /><br />AIDS is deadly and kills...fidelity is one of the main solutions to solving it...though protection also works but it is not 100 per cent safe.ImageNationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06021414643103601330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-88964960259964390502009-05-15T08:56:00.000+00:002009-05-15T08:56:00.000+00:00Hi Prince, missed it...how can I? We all are falli...Hi Prince, missed it...how can I? We all are fallible.ImageNationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06021414643103601330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-269852978800068502009-05-15T05:13:00.000+00:002009-05-15T05:13:00.000+00:00i got the chance 2 read yr book of poetry titled '...i got the chance 2 read yr book of poetry titled 'i shall, i will, i can' (poetry inspired by barack obama). it wuz powerful, man. thanks for the good work, Prince! keep it up!Obeng Aprakunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-27553882079184544612009-05-14T16:52:00.000+00:002009-05-14T16:52:00.000+00:00Nana, didn't you see my correction?....lol. At lea...Nana, didn't you see my correction?....lol. At least, I admit my simple mistakes. There is nothing written in stone, you know.<br /><br />Thanks for being a good sport. It is always good to tango ideas.Prince Kwasi Mensahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-59585915092070231812009-05-14T16:47:00.000+00:002009-05-14T16:47:00.000+00:00Dear All I am not peeved and sorry if any of you h...Dear All I am not peeved and sorry if any of you have been disturbed by my comments. <br /><br />I don't think I have shifted the post. What LS said was 'polygamy is responsible for the spread of HIV' and as you correctly pointed out it is infidelity not the different types of marriages. <br /><br />If you want us to talk about the parts of our culture that has to be reviewed that is a different issue and very different from what LS said. Perhaps we were arguing from different angles. I won't argue with you (Prince) if you argue that we must review certains aspects of our culture. Perfect! But if you say that it is the responsible for the spread of HIV/AIDS that's where I have a problem. I would not engage in polygamy not because it spreads AIDS. Your arguments when taken from the angle of cultural revival has merits and that was not the crux of the matter.<br /><br />Hope you get my point.<br /><br />PS: I did not say I want to leave this forum, I said I did not want to continue with this discussion.<br /><br />Also I have not called anybody European/western stooges. I respect your opinions and would forever appreciate it.<br /><br />A minor correction (Prince) perhaps I can be called a bigot for this (laugh for me): AIDS has not been in existence since creation. Has it? Educate meImageNationshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06021414643103601330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-8229057951874633782009-05-14T16:30:00.000+00:002009-05-14T16:30:00.000+00:00'In the end, the Africa we create shall be the Afr...'In the end, the Africa we create shall be the Africa we live in.'....wise sayingz of a tru poet...i love dis site, man!...tru dat!Obeng Aprakunoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-82349188583641736792009-05-14T15:56:00.000+00:002009-05-14T15:56:00.000+00:00Sorry for my double post. It's accidental. I also ...Sorry for my double post. It's accidental. I also regret the unwanted helping verb somewhere in the 3rd paragraph, and an 'evasive' spelling- owing to my poor proof-reading habit.Darko Antwihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345172369072331718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-79531627572636985392009-05-14T14:54:00.000+00:002009-05-14T14:54:00.000+00:00Nana, I believe others have answered this better t...Nana, I believe others have answered this better than I ever could, so I won't go there. <br /><br />But you seem to have moved the goalpost quite a bit. From what I can tell, you're quick to label those who disagree as Western stooges. Who ever said opposing polygamy is a denial of one's Africanness? <br /><br />Monogamy is not an invention of modern civilisation. There are several biblical characters, even in the OT, who remained married to single women, when the West as we know it now did not exist.<br /><br />Again I never attributed the cause HIV/AIDS to polygamy. Rather I cited the latter as a reason why the disease has spread across Africa. If one person in a polygamous relationship gets the disease, the rest, if they remain in the relationship would contract it as well. If you fail to acknowledge that, then you're in denial about a disease that is infecting and killing off people in the prime of their lives.<br /><br />You accuse others of being prejudiced, and yet display what seems to be intolerant views about gay people. A person's sexual orientation should remain a matter of conscience, between him and whatever God he/she worships.<br /><br />But back to the poetry. <br /><br />Each wife invents or dwells on what makes her relationship with the husband unique. Perhaps, the second wife is the one I pity most. Does she look back or forward? Why on earth is she in this relationship? Did she go into this marriage thinking she'll end up being the favoured one, only to find herself caught between several places and no where at all?<br /><br />If there's anything I take from this poem at all(among others), I believe it is the way it opens up the world of the women who are in this kind of relationship, with no power of their own except what ever fictional powers they attribute to themselves, but I may also be reading too much into the poem.<br /><br />CheersL Snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-16167893183700671252009-05-14T14:17:00.000+00:002009-05-14T14:17:00.000+00:00Correction: HIV/AIDS is a modern epidemic. Human i...Correction: HIV/AIDS is a modern epidemic. Human insincerity and infidelity is as old as the earth.Prince Kwasi Mensahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-12767241847399821322009-05-14T14:12:00.000+00:002009-05-14T14:12:00.000+00:00Nana, you are giving a dog a bad name in order to ...Nana, you are giving a dog a bad name in order to get the perfect excuse to hang it. No one is prejudiced against polygamy. I have relatives who are in polygamous relations and that is what works for them. I am only voicing an opinion as you did and opinion is not prejudice or misguided passion per se. <br /><br />This is a forum of open mindedness and each person should be able to see where the others are coming from. You know, I can also accuse you of the same things you are accusing others of; which is a prejudice against anything that does not make sense to you. This is our chance to call things as they are and that is not prejudice. It's like saying murder is wrong while another person argues that murders keep the human population in check. <br /><br />If we can ever change Africa for the better, we must improve the art of being receptive to fresh ways of doing things without pushing them aside as proclamations of passion. <br /><br />You use stats and facts to support your position but you refuse to accept the other facts that point to the contrary. HIV/AIDS, infidelity and human insincerity has been in existence since the creation. Neither polygamy, polyandry, monogamy, oligamy or whatever arrangement is the panacea to promiscuity. <br /><br />The crux of our disagreement is this: whether some of our cultural practices work or not. That has always been a flashpoint between our people. Some Africans love to stick to traditions; others want to introduce new ideas. This ideological tug of wag would be healthy, if and only if, each side respects the need to stay dynamic as a people. I want to thank you for your opinions and do hope to see more of your poetry. We need to have more heated, and sensible, discussions such as this one.Prince Kwasi Mensahnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-43184455903900948112009-05-14T10:09:00.002+00:002009-05-14T10:09:00.002+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Darko Antwihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345172369072331718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-70662323065391609802009-05-14T10:09:00.001+00:002009-05-14T10:09:00.001+00:00THE NERVOUS SYSTEM.
Dear Nana, I hope you don'...THE NERVOUS SYSTEM. <br /><br />Dear Nana, I hope you don't take exit of this site too soon. Let's keep learning from each other. <br /><br />keep visiting - because your wish must have come true:In your profile, you stated that you are 'interested in meeting anybody of sound mind'. And here you are; warming-up with these dear comrades:<br /><br />They are cool, sharp and resourceful - except that you have found some of their comments to be passion-possessed and prejudicial. Isn't your label is a bit strange? I can imagine some readers thinking: 'it's too odd',in their disbelief.<br /><br />If you would have time to look at their analysis / reasons again, by then you will realise that the possible reverse of your remarks will be fair. <br /><br />I consider contradictions and ambiguities within a writer's script as pardonable errors. But eavasiness is something else to me.<br /><br />Thank you.Darko Antwihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345172369072331718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-55939027074243929382009-05-14T10:09:00.000+00:002009-05-14T10:09:00.000+00:00This comment has been removed by the author.Darko Antwihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01345172369072331718noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7555516329392912719.post-79422760832967697642009-05-13T20:37:00.000+00:002009-05-13T20:37:00.000+00:00In the end, the Africa we create shall be the Afri...In the end, the Africa we create shall be the Africa we live inAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com